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New Post 16/05/2008 12:54
  shar
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Moving to Spain from Africa 
Modified By shar  on 16/05/2008 11:58:25)

HI Lauren you sent me this email and i thought to get you started and possibly help others I would post it here on the forum....

My name is Lauren Lane.  I live in Cape Town with my husband, and 4 year old son.  My husband holds a British Passport, while I hold a South African passport.  Richard currently runs his own construction company, and I run the office side of things (invoicing, wages etc).  We are very keen to relocate to Spain.  My husband spent 2 years living in Ibiza, and we have just come back from a Ibiza for a 10 day investigation to determine whether or not we could settle in Ibiza.  Unfortunately the island is just too seasonal.  We do however love the Spanish language, culture and of course the weather.  There are 3 primary reasons for wanting to relocate 1) the crime in SA is just too much for me to live with on a day to day basis, 2) while my husband has been running his own very successful business for the past 13 years – he simply is not happy doing it any more, and he has discovered a passion for sailing and would like to find a way of building a career in sailing 3) I have a 13 year old son who recently moved to the UK to be with his dad and I would love to be closer to him. 

I have a Business Management Diploma and have, until I started working with my husband, been a PA to a CEO, so my background is pretty much in Admin – I am very computer literate and I am considering doing a course in Web / Graphic Design in order to expand my marketability overseas.

While we would love to live near the ocean, I know the rentals would be pretty high, so are happy to move inland, although be about 20 minutes from the beaches.

My BIG question really is – which areas can you suggest we start investigating moving to. I know this is such a broad subject and depends on so many things. I am not sure if you have visited Cape Town, but our suburbs range from low low low class areas (where the crime and poverty is just horrendous) to the very affluent areas.  We currently live in a middle to upper class suburb- certainly now one of the wealthiest, but it is a very good area with good schools etc. 

 If we look at the East Coast – Barcelona / Valencia, can you advise me of the names of some areas which I could start researching – off course we would need to do a trip out there before we made a final decision, but it would give us a starting point and I can start investigating via the internet, schools, property, jobs, salaries, transport etc.

 I would like to be in a fairly traditional Spanish village, I imagine quaint villages, and roads, perhaps even more in the country side.  We are not big party goers, although we do like to go out for a drink every now and then, or dinner in a restaurant, but would want a more family orientated area which would be safe for my son.

 Many thanks, I appreciate any advise you may be able to give me.

Kind regards

Lauren

First of all Lauren with regards your getting permission to get into Spain which is probably the mosit sensible thing to research first...this information may help which was provided by Beverley Deller wife of Brian author of motoring in Spain see www.spainvia.com who worked in the British Consulate in SA for a couple, of years

Well it is some time since I worked there but I have kept up todate generally on things and we have had friends come to visit us in Spain so we have some insight into these matters but the first thing we always advise anyone to do is contact their local Spanish Consulate or Embassy and get it from the horses mouth so to speak. They are the experts in this. I have copied below the addresses and numbers of the Consulates in South Africa
 
Before we came to Spain we did exactly that and were given the green light to enter with no problems whatsover, as we are British passport holders as well as South African.
 
However for a non european holder it is no where as easy to enter EVEN if they are married to an EU passport holder. To enter the UK they need an entry visa and I am sure to enter Spain it is the same procedure.In the past there were so many" marriages of convenience" that countries had to get tough.
 
In the past we have had South African passport holders coming to visit us and we have had to vouch that we would look after them if they fell on bad times and ensure they would return and not extend the time allowed herehave copied before the addresses and numbers of the Consulates.
 
Perhaps this couple would like to get in touch with us direct and we can tell them of the South Africans we have met who have had to return because they did not have the necessary documentation even though they were married to an EU holder.

It is never worth taking a chance.

So maybe this is the first thing you need to find out if you can do...

 SPANISH EMBASSY & CONSULATES

  • Cape Town Consulate-General
    Tel: +27 (0) 21 422 2415/6/7/8
    Fax: +27 (0) 21 422 2328
    conscabo@yebo.co.za

     

    Street address: 37 Shortmarket Street | Map
    Business hours for consular services vary; please call ahead.

  • Spanish Embassy, Tshwane (Pretoria)
    Tel: +27 (0) 12 344 3875/6/7
    Fax: +27 (0) 12 343 4891

     Street address: 169 Pine Street, Arcadia, Tshwane (Pretoria) | Map
    Business hours for embassy and consular services vary; please call ahead.

  • Johannesburg Honorary Consul
    Tel: +27 (0) 11 783 2046
    Fax: +27 (0) 11 488 1239

     Street address: 7 Coronation Street, Sandhurst, Johannesburg | Map

  • Durban Honorary Consul
    Tel: +27 (0) 31 764 2574
    Fax: +27 (0) 31 764 2550

     Street address: 120 Abrey Road, Kloof, Durban | Map

 Hope that helps for starters.


Shar sharon@ivespainforlife.com
 
New Post 16/05/2008 13:56
  LaurenL
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Re: Moving to Spain from Africa 

Many thanks for the detailed information.  Richard and I have recently returned from a 10 day trip to Ibiza.  While we were there, we visited the Gestoria in San Antonio.  We were advised that residencia for Richard was a simple process.  He would need to produce his passport and would be allocated a NIE number, and residencia was a matter of an application form, passport and 60 euros.  I on the other hand, holding an SA passport, would need to have my original marriage certificate validated by the Spanish Consulate, and then translated into Spanish.  We will most definitely visit the Consulate in Cape Town in order to verify this information before we make any moves.  We would like to take a trip to Spain next year to investigate areas to live, which is why I asked for some recommendations, it just gives us a starting point from which to work.  I would really like to make contact with other South Africans who have moved to Spain.  If anyone has any contacts, it would be greatly appreciated.  Once again, thanks so much for the feedback.  Regards Lauren

 
New Post 17/05/2008 10:08
  shar
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Re: Moving to Spain from Africa 

Hi Lauren

I have a couple of email addresses of others in a similar situation, including a guy who I am dealing with now who´s wife is South African but has now been naturalized, which I will send to you in an email. But probably the best information can be obtained from Beverley Brian´s wife and she is always happy to give information about her experiences.

Good luck

Sharon

 


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